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	<description>&#34;being aware of your crap and actually overcoming your crap are two very different things.&#34; - christina, grey&#039;s anatomy</description>
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		<title>By: Robin Schafer</title>
		<link>http://www.greythinking.com/2010/01/27/youre-in-the-hole-stop-digging/comment-page-1/#comment-1491</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Schafer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 22:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best way I get out of feeling bad and in a hole, is to  write down what I have to be thankful for.  I also pat myself on the back, when i accomplish something, no matter how small.  It puts one in a positive frame of mind.  When you are positive anything is possible.  Robin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way I get out of feeling bad and in a hole, is to  write down what I have to be thankful for.  I also pat myself on the back, when i accomplish something, no matter how small.  It puts one in a positive frame of mind.  When you are positive anything is possible.  Robin</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
		<link>http://www.greythinking.com/2010/01/27/youre-in-the-hole-stop-digging/comment-page-1/#comment-1348</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that thinking.  It is so much more comfortable in the hole.  For the most part, I know what it is like in here.  The world outside the hole, I don&#039;t know so well.  I am so guilty of all the excuses used for not getting out of the hole.  I have gotten out before.  Looking at the list, maybe with some other forms of illness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that thinking.  It is so much more comfortable in the hole.  For the most part, I know what it is like in here.  The world outside the hole, I don&#8217;t know so well.  I am so guilty of all the excuses used for not getting out of the hole.  I have gotten out before.  Looking at the list, maybe with some other forms of illness.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;PTC&lt;/b&gt; - I understand that!  I see those two statements as different ideas, almost:

1. &quot;I can just stay in the hole because it&#039;s easier and fine&quot; = I&#039;m in the hole, I know, I just don&#039;t have the energy/motivation/something to do something about it right now.
2. &quot;I&#039;m not that bad, so I&#039;m fine where I am&quot; = I&#039;m not actually in a hole -- so why am I trying to climb out?

I&#039;m very guilty of the second.  I&#039;d get into semantics, like... &quot;So define &lt;i&gt;hole&lt;/i&gt;.  How deep does it have to be to qualify as a hole?  I am just in a &lt;i&gt;ditch&lt;/i&gt;, which is totally different from a &lt;i&gt;hole&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;  You get the point :-)

I&#039;m not endorsing this... just sympathizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>PTC</b> &#8211; I understand that!  I see those two statements as different ideas, almost:</p>
<p>1. &#8220;I can just stay in the hole because it&#8217;s easier and fine&#8221; = I&#8217;m in the hole, I know, I just don&#8217;t have the energy/motivation/something to do something about it right now.<br />
2. &#8220;I&#8217;m not that bad, so I&#8217;m fine where I am&#8221; = I&#8217;m not actually in a hole &#8212; so why am I trying to climb out?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very guilty of the second.  I&#8217;d get into semantics, like&#8230; &#8220;So define <i>hole</i>.  How deep does it have to be to qualify as a hole?  I am just in a <i>ditch</i>, which is totally different from a <i>hole</i>.&#8221;  You get the point <img src='http://www.greythinking.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not endorsing this&#8230; just sympathizing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  This was really... enlightening.  I never realized I was guilty of, well, ALL of these things.  It is so easy to find reasons not to recover.  And those seem to work SO freaking well.  *groans*
Well, you just burst MY bubble.  I&#039;ve realized I MIGHT just be wrong.  :-)
Now its just the whole - what other way IS there to look at things?
I&#039;m glad I browsed onto your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  This was really&#8230; enlightening.  I never realized I was guilty of, well, ALL of these things.  It is so easy to find reasons not to recover.  And those seem to work SO freaking well.  *groans*<br />
Well, you just burst MY bubble.  I&#8217;ve realized I MIGHT just be wrong.  <img src='http://www.greythinking.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Now its just the whole &#8211; what other way IS there to look at things?<br />
I&#8217;m glad I browsed onto your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Olivier BROUN</title>
		<link>http://www.greythinking.com/2010/01/27/youre-in-the-hole-stop-digging/comment-page-1/#comment-1037</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier BROUN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I think nearly the same with any addiction. If I got out my addictions, it was not by attacking them dirrectly, but by going &quot;arround them&quot; and this is what you explain with great word. (excuse me for my bad english). Olivier BROUN, France.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I think nearly the same with any addiction. If I got out my addictions, it was not by attacking them dirrectly, but by going &#8220;arround them&#8221; and this is what you explain with great word. (excuse me for my bad english). Olivier BROUN, France.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great post - and discussion!!
funny how a good metaphor can make sense of such a complex set of ideas! 

I think BLs comment  said a lot - about having been in the hole for so long that staying down there can seem far less scary than getting out of the hole. 

Isnt a big barrier the fact that an ED can feel like who and what we are? Like its part of our identity? Letting go of things can always feel scary especially if we identify ourselves with it I guess.

So I think thats when we need help to find healthier ways to replace what the ED was fulfilling for us (as opposed to the risk of simply swapping for another symptom as originally highlighted)

I like this site!!

Matt C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great post &#8211; and discussion!!<br />
funny how a good metaphor can make sense of such a complex set of ideas! </p>
<p>I think BLs comment  said a lot &#8211; about having been in the hole for so long that staying down there can seem far less scary than getting out of the hole. </p>
<p>Isnt a big barrier the fact that an ED can feel like who and what we are? Like its part of our identity? Letting go of things can always feel scary especially if we identify ourselves with it I guess.</p>
<p>So I think thats when we need help to find healthier ways to replace what the ED was fulfilling for us (as opposed to the risk of simply swapping for another symptom as originally highlighted)</p>
<p>I like this site!!</p>
<p>Matt C</p>
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		<title>By: PTC</title>
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		<dc:creator>PTC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m actually just in a ditch and it&#039;s not that bad, which is why I don&#039;t really need to climb out.  I hear what you&#039;re saying, GT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m actually just in a ditch and it&#8217;s not that bad, which is why I don&#8217;t really need to climb out.  I hear what you&#8217;re saying, GT.</p>
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		<title>By: BL</title>
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		<dc:creator>BL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am definitely guilty of both of these.  I also think sometimes the expression &quot;the devil you know is better then the devil you don&#039;t&quot; comes into play here.  Even if you know you are in the hole, you have been in the hole for so long that it is more comfortable then trying to find your way out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am definitely guilty of both of these.  I also think sometimes the expression &#8220;the devil you know is better then the devil you don&#8217;t&#8221; comes into play here.  Even if you know you are in the hole, you have been in the hole for so long that it is more comfortable then trying to find your way out.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, ditto actually....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, ditto actually&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: greythinking</title>
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		<dc:creator>greythinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;PTC&lt;/b&gt; - I understand that!  I see those two statements as different ideas, almost:

1. &quot;I can just stay in the hole because it&#039;s easier and fine&quot; = I&#039;m in the hole, I know, I just don&#039;t have the energy/motivation/something to do something about it right now.
2. &quot;I&#039;m not that bad, so I&#039;m fine where I am&quot; = I&#039;m not actually in a hole -- so why am I trying to climb out?

I&#039;m very guilty of the second.  I&#039;d get into semantics, like... &quot;So define &lt;i&gt;hole&lt;/i&gt;.  How deep does it have to be to qualify as a hole?  I am just in a &lt;i&gt;ditch&lt;/i&gt;, which is totally different from a &lt;i&gt;hole&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;  You get the point :-)

I&#039;m not endorsing this... just sympathizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>PTC</b> &#8211; I understand that!  I see those two statements as different ideas, almost:</p>
<p>1. &#8220;I can just stay in the hole because it&#8217;s easier and fine&#8221; = I&#8217;m in the hole, I know, I just don&#8217;t have the energy/motivation/something to do something about it right now.<br />
2. &#8220;I&#8217;m not that bad, so I&#8217;m fine where I am&#8221; = I&#8217;m not actually in a hole &#8212; so why am I trying to climb out?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very guilty of the second.  I&#8217;d get into semantics, like&#8230; &#8220;So define <i>hole</i>.  How deep does it have to be to qualify as a hole?  I am just in a <i>ditch</i>, which is totally different from a <i>hole</i>.&#8221;  You get the point <img src='http://www.greythinking.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not endorsing this&#8230; just sympathizing.</p>
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