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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://www.greythinking.com/2008/08/28/dear-kettle-love-the-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  How do you make your blog so organized/get all of these links?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  How do you make your blog so organized/get all of these links?</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://www.greythinking.com/2008/08/28/dear-kettle-love-the-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do this too.. but I mean so well.  It&#039;s like I can give really good advice. I just can&#039;t take my own.  Anyways I got your email and I will respond asap.  I&#039;m getting ready to go back to school so things have been hectic.  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do this too.. but I mean so well.  It&#8217;s like I can give really good advice. I just can&#8217;t take my own.  Anyways I got your email and I will respond asap.  I&#8217;m getting ready to go back to school so things have been hectic.  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Lola Snow</title>
		<link>http://www.greythinking.com/2008/08/28/dear-kettle-love-the-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Lola Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***holds up hands***
guilty as charged!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***holds up hands***<br />
guilty as charged!</p>
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		<title>By: eshoe</title>
		<link>http://www.greythinking.com/2008/08/28/dear-kettle-love-the-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>eshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes I see your point now.  Just like I don&#039;t tell my friend to love herself anymore, b/c I sure haven&#039;t figured out how to do it myself.  Hypocrite, that&#039;s what I was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes I see your point now.  Just like I don&#8217;t tell my friend to love herself anymore, b/c I sure haven&#8217;t figured out how to do it myself.  Hypocrite, that&#8217;s what I was.</p>
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		<title>By: grey</title>
		<link>http://www.greythinking.com/2008/08/28/dear-kettle-love-the-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a personal blog that I&#039;ve kept since... oh, 2001?  that is much the same thing.  I think it&#039;s a great therapeutic tool and resource for others.  Whether your up or your down... it&#039;s comforting to know that others are going through similar things.  I am completely supportive of that.

What bothers me is too many eating disordered individuals all giving each other advice.  Like in my example, I&#039;ll comment on one friend&#039;s blog about bad body image hurting her relationship... while at the same time she&#039;s telling me what I need to do to improve my self-image.  The reality of it is, neither of us have it figured out.  And we can advise relentlessly, but at the end of the day I&#039;m still irritable because I&#039;m feeling insecure about weight and she&#039;s arguing with her husband about intimacy.

Can you learn things from each other?  Yes, definitely.  But we were all in therapy for years and are recycling the same therapeutic information.  It is frustrating to be advised by someone in the same place as you.  Lately I&#039;ve had to make a conscious effort to &lt;i&gt;stop&lt;/i&gt; sending that email or &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; write that comment that starts with &quot;I used to...&quot; or &quot;what I found...&quot;

It&#039;s not just my group of friends.  It&#039;s many of the group therapy settings that I&#039;ve been in, definitely in residential treatment, and any online forum you&#039;d visit.

I think it&#039;s such a gray area with eating disorders because often we KNOW what we should be doing, but we&#039;re just... not doing it.  If we&#039;re not taking the recovery steps that we need to be taking, then there&#039;s something wrong there.  Something we don&#039;t have figured out, and probably shouldn&#039;t advise others on.

Does that make more sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a personal blog that I&#8217;ve kept since&#8230; oh, 2001?  that is much the same thing.  I think it&#8217;s a great therapeutic tool and resource for others.  Whether your up or your down&#8230; it&#8217;s comforting to know that others are going through similar things.  I am completely supportive of that.</p>
<p>What bothers me is too many eating disordered individuals all giving each other advice.  Like in my example, I&#8217;ll comment on one friend&#8217;s blog about bad body image hurting her relationship&#8230; while at the same time she&#8217;s telling me what I need to do to improve my self-image.  The reality of it is, neither of us have it figured out.  And we can advise relentlessly, but at the end of the day I&#8217;m still irritable because I&#8217;m feeling insecure about weight and she&#8217;s arguing with her husband about intimacy.</p>
<p>Can you learn things from each other?  Yes, definitely.  But we were all in therapy for years and are recycling the same therapeutic information.  It is frustrating to be advised by someone in the same place as you.  Lately I&#8217;ve had to make a conscious effort to <i>stop</i> sending that email or <i>not</i> write that comment that starts with &#8220;I used to&#8230;&#8221; or &#8220;what I found&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just my group of friends.  It&#8217;s many of the group therapy settings that I&#8217;ve been in, definitely in residential treatment, and any online forum you&#8217;d visit.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s such a gray area with eating disorders because often we KNOW what we should be doing, but we&#8217;re just&#8230; not doing it.  If we&#8217;re not taking the recovery steps that we need to be taking, then there&#8217;s something wrong there.  Something we don&#8217;t have figured out, and probably shouldn&#8217;t advise others on.</p>
<p>Does that make more sense?</p>
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		<title>By: guinea pig</title>
		<link>http://www.greythinking.com/2008/08/28/dear-kettle-love-the-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>guinea pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be that comments/conversation with a so-called &quot;pot&quot; may raise the hackles, inspire defensiveness, or may not carry the weight of feedback from non-historied others ...

But, the behavior and personal psychiatric/emotional/physical state of the speaker doesn&#039;t necessarily invalidate the statement(s)/advice. Those in the same boat can be singularly insightful about the issues of others ... and can bring plenty to the table, in spite of themselves.

If the recipient of the &quot;pot&#039;s&quot; thoughts can get over the instinct to require equality and solidarity in recovery and reject the instinct to want to ... reject ... the &quot;pot&quot; for her un-wellness, there might be something of distinct value to be had.

That would be where the gray area muddles up the black-and-white thinking about who is qualified to give advice. Just because what is said is inconsistent with the giver&#039;s personal situation doesn&#039;t mean the statements aren&#039;t true ... or that the recipient shouldn&#039;t be open to the ideas of all who bring them. Wisdom comes in unexpected packages ... if we can suspend the urge to be judgmental.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be that comments/conversation with a so-called &#8220;pot&#8221; may raise the hackles, inspire defensiveness, or may not carry the weight of feedback from non-historied others &#8230;</p>
<p>But, the behavior and personal psychiatric/emotional/physical state of the speaker doesn&#8217;t necessarily invalidate the statement(s)/advice. Those in the same boat can be singularly insightful about the issues of others &#8230; and can bring plenty to the table, in spite of themselves.</p>
<p>If the recipient of the &#8220;pot&#8217;s&#8221; thoughts can get over the instinct to require equality and solidarity in recovery and reject the instinct to want to &#8230; reject &#8230; the &#8220;pot&#8221; for her un-wellness, there might be something of distinct value to be had.</p>
<p>That would be where the gray area muddles up the black-and-white thinking about who is qualified to give advice. Just because what is said is inconsistent with the giver&#8217;s personal situation doesn&#8217;t mean the statements aren&#8217;t true &#8230; or that the recipient shouldn&#8217;t be open to the ideas of all who bring them. Wisdom comes in unexpected packages &#8230; if we can suspend the urge to be judgmental.</p>
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		<title>By: eshoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>eshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I understand this correctly; for example, I have a blog on which the primary focus is recovery from my ed.  I was completely recovered for 4 years and have since relapsed.  I started the blog as a way to vent, to get rid of the thoughts plaguing me with this disease.

If anyone ever reads it, I just hope they are able to take something away that encourages them, that they see someone else who understands the daily strugles yet is still fighting.

Maybe I completely misunderstod; I don&#039;t try to give advice nor do I believe I am qualified to do so; but encourage someone else - that I can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I understand this correctly; for example, I have a blog on which the primary focus is recovery from my ed.  I was completely recovered for 4 years and have since relapsed.  I started the blog as a way to vent, to get rid of the thoughts plaguing me with this disease.</p>
<p>If anyone ever reads it, I just hope they are able to take something away that encourages them, that they see someone else who understands the daily strugles yet is still fighting.</p>
<p>Maybe I completely misunderstod; I don&#8217;t try to give advice nor do I believe I am qualified to do so; but encourage someone else &#8211; that I can do.</p>
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		<title>By: elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do this all the time. It&#039;s awful. but what&#039;s a little funny is that it almost always follows with me saying/typing &#039;and here I am, the pot&#039; which sometimes sounds a bit like a drug reference but you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do this all the time. It&#8217;s awful. but what&#8217;s a little funny is that it almost always follows with me saying/typing &#8216;and here I am, the pot&#8217; which sometimes sounds a bit like a drug reference but you know.</p>
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