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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.greythinking.com/2008/07/01/dr-drew-should-treat-eating-disorders/comment-page-1/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES HE SHOULD!!!!! I would fly across the country in a heartbeat to be under his care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES HE SHOULD!!!!! I would fly across the country in a heartbeat to be under his care!</p>
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		<title>By: A dishonest vegetarian &#171; Grey Thinking</title>
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		<dc:creator>A dishonest vegetarian &#171; Grey Thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This brings up a familiar sticking point for me (which I have written about before &#8212; see my Dr. Drew should treat EDs post): &#8220;This may be normal but I can&#8217;t engage in it because I have an eating [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This brings up a familiar sticking point for me (which I have written about before &#8212; see my Dr. Drew should treat EDs post): &#8220;This may be normal but I can&#8217;t engage in it because I have an eating [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A different definition of &#8220;normal&#8221; &#171; Grey Thinking</title>
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		<dc:creator>A different definition of &#8220;normal&#8221; &#171; Grey Thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] experiment,&#8221; it was great to read this post from Laura Collins. As I mentioned in my Dr. Drew entry, I think that eating disorder recovery and long-term maintenance needs to be taken as seriously as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] experiment,&#8221; it was great to read this post from Laura Collins. As I mentioned in my Dr. Drew entry, I think that eating disorder recovery and long-term maintenance needs to be taken as seriously as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: greythinking</title>
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		<dc:creator>greythinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiptoe,

Oh no, did Dr. Phil say that?  Bummer -- I really dislike him.

Yes, the needing food to survive part is definitely a big difference between EDs and addictions... in fact, I would say that that makes it &lt;b&gt;harder&lt;/b&gt; to recover from an ED... but I&#039;ve never had a drug or alcohol addiction, so I can&#039;t really say.



Stephanie,

It seems like in Hollywood, rehab in general has become accepted....



House,

My point exactly -- the healthy/disordered line is so fuzzy.  And I think that the slips / accountability thing is about even more than just denial (although that does play a large part).... With an eating disorder, you&#039;re essentially communicating with your body (one of the functions of the ED, at least).  Following the recovery plan 100% sometimes feels like you&#039;re saying &quot;I am 100% okay.&quot;  Also, it&#039;s tough to give yourself permission to recover... so when you&#039;re having a particularly bad day or are feeling crappy about yourself or recovery, it&#039;s easy to cut corners.  And when you&#039;re told hey, it&#039;s okay that you cut corners, you&#039;re doing so much better and those corners don&#039;t really even matter... then you&#039;re ignoring those &quot;I am feeling crappy&quot; signs and pushing the fuzzy disordered/healthy line a little further (cutting corners = healthy).

Okay, this comment was not as well thought-out as I intended it to be... but I guess my ultimate point is that &quot;slips&quot; with eating disorders should be taken as seriously as they are with drug and alcohol addictions.  And by slips, I don&#039;t mean falling to a point where you&#039;ve lost 10 lbs or are only eating 500 calories a day... Using occasionally isn&#039;t okay -- neither is skipping meals.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiptoe,</p>
<p>Oh no, did Dr. Phil say that?  Bummer &#8212; I really dislike him.</p>
<p>Yes, the needing food to survive part is definitely a big difference between EDs and addictions&#8230; in fact, I would say that that makes it <b>harder</b> to recover from an ED&#8230; but I&#8217;ve never had a drug or alcohol addiction, so I can&#8217;t really say.</p>
<p>Stephanie,</p>
<p>It seems like in Hollywood, rehab in general has become accepted&#8230;.</p>
<p>House,</p>
<p>My point exactly &#8212; the healthy/disordered line is so fuzzy.  And I think that the slips / accountability thing is about even more than just denial (although that does play a large part)&#8230;. With an eating disorder, you&#8217;re essentially communicating with your body (one of the functions of the ED, at least).  Following the recovery plan 100% sometimes feels like you&#8217;re saying &#8220;I am 100% okay.&#8221;  Also, it&#8217;s tough to give yourself permission to recover&#8230; so when you&#8217;re having a particularly bad day or are feeling crappy about yourself or recovery, it&#8217;s easy to cut corners.  And when you&#8217;re told hey, it&#8217;s okay that you cut corners, you&#8217;re doing so much better and those corners don&#8217;t really even matter&#8230; then you&#8217;re ignoring those &#8220;I am feeling crappy&#8221; signs and pushing the fuzzy disordered/healthy line a little further (cutting corners = healthy).</p>
<p>Okay, this comment was not as well thought-out as I intended it to be&#8230; but I guess my ultimate point is that &#8220;slips&#8221; with eating disorders should be taken as seriously as they are with drug and alcohol addictions.  And by slips, I don&#8217;t mean falling to a point where you&#8217;ve lost 10 lbs or are only eating 500 calories a day&#8230; Using occasionally isn&#8217;t okay &#8212; neither is skipping meals.</p>
<p>Thanks for your feedback, everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Grey House</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grey House</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also agree that eating disorders share a lot of similarities with addictions.  They have even shown that people can get the same sort of &quot;high&quot; from restricting or binging and purging that people get from using drugs or alcohol.

I think that Dr. Drew would not stand for the &quot;little slips&quot; that people in recovery from an eating disorder get away with, which is exactly what people need.  People with eating disorders are notorious for being in denial, a problem that is furthered when therapists or physicians don&#039;t call them out and say &quot;hey no, that is not ok.&quot;  However, the problem is - what counts as a slip?  It is normal and healthy to eat salad and go to the gym, so where do you draw the line between healthy and disordered?  Especially in today&#039;s world where you have diet food everywhere, how do you tell someone with an eating disorder &quot;no it is not ok for you to eat salad at both lunch and dinner everyday&quot; when they see coworkers doing that as part of a diet?  Whereas everyone agrees that doing cocaine even once is a problem, a slip in eating disorder recovery is not as clearly defined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree that eating disorders share a lot of similarities with addictions.  They have even shown that people can get the same sort of &#8220;high&#8221; from restricting or binging and purging that people get from using drugs or alcohol.</p>
<p>I think that Dr. Drew would not stand for the &#8220;little slips&#8221; that people in recovery from an eating disorder get away with, which is exactly what people need.  People with eating disorders are notorious for being in denial, a problem that is furthered when therapists or physicians don&#8217;t call them out and say &#8220;hey no, that is not ok.&#8221;  However, the problem is &#8211; what counts as a slip?  It is normal and healthy to eat salad and go to the gym, so where do you draw the line between healthy and disordered?  Especially in today&#8217;s world where you have diet food everywhere, how do you tell someone with an eating disorder &#8220;no it is not ok for you to eat salad at both lunch and dinner everyday&#8221; when they see coworkers doing that as part of a diet?  Whereas everyone agrees that doing cocaine even once is a problem, a slip in eating disorder recovery is not as clearly defined.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are spot on!  ED&#039;s often seem somehow acceptable or at least the bahviours that go with them do.  So many celebrities are engaging in unhealthy eating habits that it seems almost normal to have disordered eating these days.  If only people knew how miserable it would make them they might not start in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are spot on!  ED&#8217;s often seem somehow acceptable or at least the bahviours that go with them do.  So many celebrities are engaging in unhealthy eating habits that it seems almost normal to have disordered eating these days.  If only people knew how miserable it would make them they might not start in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiptoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiptoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, didn&#039;t Dr. Phil say that line as well, &quot;you&#039;re only as sick as your secrets?&quot;  LOL

Yes, I like Dr. Drew a lot as well.  His cook Cracked is pretty interesting.

I agree with your assessments of the similarities between addiction and eating disorders.  The one big difference I&#039;d say is that you don&#039;t need alcohol or drugs, but your definitely need food.  In any case, there is a lot to say in terms of being able to incorporate treatment of eating disorders with the addiction model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, didn&#8217;t Dr. Phil say that line as well, &#8220;you&#8217;re only as sick as your secrets?&#8221;  LOL</p>
<p>Yes, I like Dr. Drew a lot as well.  His cook Cracked is pretty interesting.</p>
<p>I agree with your assessments of the similarities between addiction and eating disorders.  The one big difference I&#8217;d say is that you don&#8217;t need alcohol or drugs, but your definitely need food.  In any case, there is a lot to say in terms of being able to incorporate treatment of eating disorders with the addiction model.</p>
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